Fear mongering
Those damn Neocons©! It's the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy™, I tell you! Putting all this fear, uncertainty and doubt in the minds of gullible Americans that will advocate any idea that fits in with their world view! Making exaggerated claims of impending doom and disaster for all Americans if we do not follow the plan RIGHT NOW!! Using lies and inaccurate statements promoted as facts, unsubstantiated claims of immediate threat to life and limb ... all to make a buck for these huge corporations from the naive sheeples that line up to support the cause! Shameful!Wait ... what's that?
Michael Moore is a Liberal? And Sicko is a left-wing attack on the government because it will not provide health insurance for each and every American (and non-American visiting here, legal and otherwise)?
Oh.
Well, then ... nevermind. Carry on.
UPDATE:
For those of you who have missed the very obvious point I was making here, and got yourselves all pissed off and offended ... get over it, OK? Geez. Also, please quit throwing CNN around as the be-all end-all source of information. You do realize how biased they are, and that they are prone to inaccuracy themselves, right? When I have a few moments to breathe, between work, school, kids and other very important considerations in my life, I will post plenty of links, quotes and information from a variety of sources that refute the claim that Michael Moore is anything other than an ego-driven charlatan, and his movie is anything but a documentary. Thanks, have a nice day, and I will be back after midterms.
Just found this over at Serr8d's place: 'SiCKO' Attacks American Health Care , but since Michael Moore has always had an Axe to Grind, he's Not Convincing Me. Good job, dude!
For those also willing and able to research beyond the echo chamber of CNN, I also recommend the review at USAToday. And also what the good citizens and health care providers in Canada and The UK have to say about socialized medicine. What it comes down to is, do you REALLY want the government to be in charge of YOUR medical care?
Posted by LissaKay on 06/30/07 at 01:03 AM in
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Well, lets see. Should I believe a high school graduate from Tennessee or this:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/28/sicko.fact.check/index.html
Keep drinking the koolaid, Lissa.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/28/sicko.fact.check/index.html
Keep drinking the koolaid, Lissa.
Posted by ORHS73 on 07/01 at 08:20 PM
I thought you said you weren't going to read my site anymore. Would you mind terribly keeping your promise? Thanks.
Oh, and CNN is not exactly an unbiased OR accurate source to quote. Just so ya know. Wouldn't want you to embarrass yourself too much. Then, to further keep from making an ass of yourself, you might want to check the dictionary on the meanings of "sarcasm" and "irony".
Good luck out there. It's a big, big world.
Oh, and CNN is not exactly an unbiased OR accurate source to quote. Just so ya know. Wouldn't want you to embarrass yourself too much. Then, to further keep from making an ass of yourself, you might want to check the dictionary on the meanings of "sarcasm" and "irony".
Good luck out there. It's a big, big world.
Posted by LissaKay on 07/01 at 08:27 PM
Thanks, Lissa. You answered my question.
Still have anger management problems, I see.
Heh.
Still have anger management problems, I see.
Heh.
Posted by ORHS73 on 07/02 at 05:50 AM
Dude, you are seriously delusional if you are seeing any anger in anything I have written here. Projecting much? Perhaps you should get outside and get some fresh air for a while.
Posted by LissaKay on 07/02 at 10:18 AM
LK, did you really get punted from the blogroll at Progressiveville? If so, what was your crime?
Posted by # 9 on 07/02 at 02:35 PM
Yepper. I have been de-linked and Randy is redirecting any links to his place from here to Freeperville. Apparently, my "crime" was either my response to his Memorial Day post or to this chickenhawk meme attack on Fred! that I replied to.
So, he de-linked me ... whatev *eye roll*
Ain't that a hoot?
So, he de-linked me ... whatev *eye roll*
Ain't that a hoot?
Posted by LissaKay on 07/02 at 04:10 PM
Stalin would be so proud. Let's review, if someone disagrees with Randy the Great, then they must be excommunicated from the Church of the Painfully Ignorant.
Then only sound remaining at Progressiveville is echo, echo, echo...
Good for you LK, you are in good company.
Then only sound remaining at Progressiveville is echo, echo, echo...
Good for you LK, you are in good company.
Posted by # 9 on 07/02 at 05:52 PM
"excommunicated from the Church of the
Painfully Ignorant."
This blog *is* the Church of the Painfully Ignorant.
"What it comes down to is, do you REALLY want the government to be in charge of YOUR medical care?"
Why don't you ask a retired person, a veteran, the President of the United States or a member of Congress. The government is in charge of THEIR medical care.
Painfully Ignorant."
This blog *is* the Church of the Painfully Ignorant.
"What it comes down to is, do you REALLY want the government to be in charge of YOUR medical care?"
Why don't you ask a retired person, a veteran, the President of the United States or a member of Congress. The government is in charge of THEIR medical care.
Posted by ORHS73 on 07/02 at 08:45 PM
OMG dude. Seriously. Don't come on here saying stuff like that. I just got a really nice new monitor, and you almost made me spit my soda all over it. Geez! Have a heart, will ya?
You really think that Medicare is all that and a bag of chips, eh? So tell me, why do seniors spend hundreds of dollars every month on supplemental policies? I know ... I bet you don't really know anyone that has Medicare coverage, right? (here's a hint: as Medicare goes, so goes private insurance) Nor have you worked in the medical business and had to deal with Medicare reimbursement rules and regulations. I would even go so far as to guess that you've never been in the insurance business either. I'd even bet that you also have also not had the pleasure of TennCare in your life - you know, HillaryCare Beta? The failed social medicine program here in Tennessee that is now in the process of killing tens of thousands of people they just had to kick off the rolls ... yeah, that's the one.
Now what was that you were saying about "ignorance"? Oh, that's right, you come here to project all your flaws and failings onto me. You know, that is a sign of a serious personality disorder. Perhaps you should consult with someone about that. I'm sure there are plenty of professionals there in St Louis that can help you out.
Wait ... you're still here ... I thought you said you were done with this site ... months ago. WTF?
You really think that Medicare is all that and a bag of chips, eh? So tell me, why do seniors spend hundreds of dollars every month on supplemental policies? I know ... I bet you don't really know anyone that has Medicare coverage, right? (here's a hint: as Medicare goes, so goes private insurance) Nor have you worked in the medical business and had to deal with Medicare reimbursement rules and regulations. I would even go so far as to guess that you've never been in the insurance business either. I'd even bet that you also have also not had the pleasure of TennCare in your life - you know, HillaryCare Beta? The failed social medicine program here in Tennessee that is now in the process of killing tens of thousands of people they just had to kick off the rolls ... yeah, that's the one.
Now what was that you were saying about "ignorance"? Oh, that's right, you come here to project all your flaws and failings onto me. You know, that is a sign of a serious personality disorder. Perhaps you should consult with someone about that. I'm sure there are plenty of professionals there in St Louis that can help you out.
Wait ... you're still here ... I thought you said you were done with this site ... months ago. WTF?
Posted by LissaKay on 07/02 at 09:09 PM
"So tell me, why do seniors spend hundreds of dollars every month on supplemental policies?"
Some do. In fact, most don't.
"I know ... I bet you don't really know anyone that has Medicare coverage, right?"
You lose. Both my parents and both my inlaws have Medicare coverage.
"Nor have you worked in the medical business and had to deal with Medicare reimbursement rules and regulations."
This time, you're right. However, in the real world, one doesn't have to experience everything in order to understand what's going on.
"I would even go so far as to guess that you've never been in the insurance business either."
Nope. I've been a scientist for my entire career.
"I'd even bet that you also have also not had the pleasure of TennCare in your life - you know, HillaryCare Beta?"
I forgot that Hillary was governor of Tennessee. When was that, again?
"The failed social medicine program here in Tennessee that is now in the process of killing tens of thousands of people they just had to kick off the rolls ... yeah, that's the one."
Heard of it. Sounds like a disaster. One more reason not to live in Tennessee, I guess.
"Oh, that's right, you come here to project all your flaws and failings onto me."
This is narcissism.
"You know, that is a sign of a serious personality disorder."
Well, that's a topic you do speak with some authority on.
"WTF?"
I was thinking exactly the same thing!
Some do. In fact, most don't.
"I know ... I bet you don't really know anyone that has Medicare coverage, right?"
You lose. Both my parents and both my inlaws have Medicare coverage.
"Nor have you worked in the medical business and had to deal with Medicare reimbursement rules and regulations."
This time, you're right. However, in the real world, one doesn't have to experience everything in order to understand what's going on.
"I would even go so far as to guess that you've never been in the insurance business either."
Nope. I've been a scientist for my entire career.
"I'd even bet that you also have also not had the pleasure of TennCare in your life - you know, HillaryCare Beta?"
I forgot that Hillary was governor of Tennessee. When was that, again?
"The failed social medicine program here in Tennessee that is now in the process of killing tens of thousands of people they just had to kick off the rolls ... yeah, that's the one."
Heard of it. Sounds like a disaster. One more reason not to live in Tennessee, I guess.
"Oh, that's right, you come here to project all your flaws and failings onto me."
This is narcissism.
"You know, that is a sign of a serious personality disorder."
Well, that's a topic you do speak with some authority on.
"WTF?"
I was thinking exactly the same thing!
Posted by ORHS73 on 07/05 at 03:17 PM
If you don't live in Tennessee and can only think of reasons not to live here, then why let everyone know you went to Oak Ridge High School and come back spreading venom all over an East Tennessee blog?
A little obsessive, are we? Hate yourself so much that you enjoy being offended? Or is it the "narcissism" of being the center of attention that you crave?
If so, I'll be happy to give you an Asshat of the Day Award...
A little obsessive, are we? Hate yourself so much that you enjoy being offended? Or is it the "narcissism" of being the center of attention that you crave?
If so, I'll be happy to give you an Asshat of the Day Award...
Posted by Mark Steel on 07/05 at 10:05 PM
Well, I missed this thread (vacation means leaving the box unplugged, too!)
Thanks for the link, LK. If ORHS73dropout wasn't such a troll, she could have followed my link to the actual data. But, being hooked up to life support on CNN, it's expected that she sits back and LA,LA,LA's the stuff that's against her lie-beral grain. Oh, well.
Health care isn't free, and shouldn't be. If it were, then the quality would degrade. People tend to overuse that which isn't dear to them, the system strains, we wind up with an inferior product.
Personally, I don't want handouts from Government. I feel sorry for those who do.
Even ORHS73, whoever she is.
Thanks for the link, LK. If ORHS73dropout wasn't such a troll, she could have followed my link to the actual data. But, being hooked up to life support on CNN, it's expected that she sits back and LA,LA,LA's the stuff that's against her lie-beral grain. Oh, well.
Health care isn't free, and shouldn't be. If it were, then the quality would degrade. People tend to overuse that which isn't dear to them, the system strains, we wind up with an inferior product.
Personally, I don't want handouts from Government. I feel sorry for those who do.
Even ORHS73, whoever she is.
Posted by Serr8d on 07/09 at 11:25 PM
"Personally, I don't want handouts from Government. I feel sorry for those who do.
Even ORHS73, whoever she is."
Heh.
Well, you can save your pity for someone else. I'm having a great time these days.
Rode Ride the Rockies last month--422 miles in seven days--with my brother and his family. A great life experience! And I lost five pounds training for it, so I now weigh what I did as a freshman in college, when I ran varsity cross-country.
Just got a 16% raise in my 6-figure salary, starting this month.
My lovely and talented wife and I will be celebrating our 30th wedding anniversary next month (we were married in Oak Ridge-St. Mary's).
Our daughter leaves for college next month. The tuition is paid by my wife's employer, and her National Merit scholarships will cover all the room and board. She got four 5's on AP exams, so she has enough credit to start as a sophomore.
We're using some of the savings to build a screened-in back porch. The builders should be starting next week.
Life is good for me. But thanks for your concern.
Even ORHS73, whoever she is."
Heh.
Well, you can save your pity for someone else. I'm having a great time these days.
Rode Ride the Rockies last month--422 miles in seven days--with my brother and his family. A great life experience! And I lost five pounds training for it, so I now weigh what I did as a freshman in college, when I ran varsity cross-country.
Just got a 16% raise in my 6-figure salary, starting this month.
My lovely and talented wife and I will be celebrating our 30th wedding anniversary next month (we were married in Oak Ridge-St. Mary's).
Our daughter leaves for college next month. The tuition is paid by my wife's employer, and her National Merit scholarships will cover all the room and board. She got four 5's on AP exams, so she has enough credit to start as a sophomore.
We're using some of the savings to build a screened-in back porch. The builders should be starting next week.
Life is good for me. But thanks for your concern.
Posted by ORHS73 on 07/10 at 06:30 AM
Jeez, you're right, Mark, it took only a few hours before the bite. I thought maybe the thread was dead.
But, even with it's claimed prosperity, you can see that nothing satisfies. There's always that desire to control what others do, via some government-cheese program.
Guilt, you think?
If half of what it says is true, just goes to show you don't need to live in a trailer to be trailer trash...
But, even with it's claimed prosperity, you can see that nothing satisfies. There's always that desire to control what others do, via some government-cheese program.
Guilt, you think?
If half of what it says is true, just goes to show you don't need to live in a trailer to be trailer trash...
Posted by Serr8d on 07/10 at 06:46 AM
ROFLMAO I'm just bothered that it took 'em 7 days to get 422 miles. 
Posted by Mark Steel on 07/10 at 07:09 AM
Hi Mark,
Well, the event was scheduled for seven days, it wasn't up to me.
However, even on each day, I certainly wasn't the first cyclist finished either--at 52 years old, riding a 25 yo steel frame bike, I can't keep up with the spandex crowd. And the ride up Independence pass certainly slowed me down. I'm glad to say I was in the top 10-20% of finishers each day, though, out of the 2000 riders this year. Not too bad for an old guy.
Thanks for your concern.
Well, the event was scheduled for seven days, it wasn't up to me.
However, even on each day, I certainly wasn't the first cyclist finished either--at 52 years old, riding a 25 yo steel frame bike, I can't keep up with the spandex crowd. And the ride up Independence pass certainly slowed me down. I'm glad to say I was in the top 10-20% of finishers each day, though, out of the 2000 riders this year. Not too bad for an old guy.
Thanks for your concern.
Posted by ORHS73 on 07/10 at 08:48 AM
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